.357 Magnum vs .44 Magnum

Discussion in 'The Duck Hunters Forum' started by Luigi Daniele, May 24, 2018.

.44 or .357?

  1. .357

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  2. .44

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    29.2%
  1. Bear

    Bear Elite Refuge Member

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    There's a chart of actual shootings out in the Internuts that shows caliber and one shot stops. If memory serves me correctly the .44 Mag was around the mid-range.

    The 125 gr. Remington .357Mag and the 230 gr Federal 45ACP Hydroshock top the list. Again...all memory caveats apply.

    I'll try and find it...later.
     
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    One I never owned but wish I did, personally I think the .41 magnum is one of the most underrated pistol rounds ever produced.
    Why it never took off is beyond me, more knockdown than a .357 and more controllable than a .44 I just can't see why they never made it, maybe Elmer Keith didn't own one...:l
     
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    I shot a whitetail at around 45 yards with 125 grain Hornady XTP at 1800 fps, deer rolled 3 times after I hit it and never got back up if that tells you anything.
     
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    A deer is a pretty good estimation of human body thickness and anatomy.

    If that was a Missouri deer it was a far lot larger than our Texas Hill Country deer...fo sure.

    Did you by any chance recover the bullet? XTP's don't seem to have a very good reputation for expansion. Not dissin your load...just wondering what your results were...if known. :tu
     
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    As I remember I couldn't find anything, bullet must have hit bone or disintegrated. I didn't care happy hunter, dead deer can't ask for much better than that. There's two types of XTP bullets, one has a more open frontal area and the other is more of hollow point flat nose type, both have different expansion capabilities.
     
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    Didn't know that about the XTPs...Thanks.

    Your load at 1800 fps is generating ~900 ft/lbs.
     
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    Here's the flat point and regular point XTP's, flat point I use in fast hunting loads.
    xtp+05[1].jpg
     
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    44 Mag is a little better than mid-range with most loads.

    The chart requires a membership to the site so it's not available to link.
     
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    I will admit I am not on top of the latest in ballistics. These new hi-tech bullets and loadings, I am not current. But back in the day, the .357 was the most effective handgun you could use for self-defense against bad hominids. It was closely followed by the 45ACP and the .38 Spl rounded it up at 3rd. The 44 Mag was a relatively poor performer due to it's extremely high velocity. It punched through the target, not creating a effective wound cavity. Exactly why the 9mm was such a poor performer, back in the day.

    Against large, dangerous game it would be a different story. Against bears for instance, the 44 Mag was very effective.

    But I don't know that to still be true. I don't know how ballistics stand between the .40 S&W, the .357 Sig or any number of new chamberings or new high tech bullets that have changed the landscape.

    But if I were going to choose, it would be the . 357 Mag. It's proven track record is one to be acknowledged.
     
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    I had a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag, it was not fun to shoot, loud and heavy recoil. I traded it and got an AR-15.
     
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