Thanks for the input. I had noticed the C.I differences in their specs. and was pretty sure the Tohatsu would out preform the yammy. Going to get a price on a Tohatsu. Found I,ve got a couple dealers within about 45 minute drive of me. Always looking for the best deal and outboards.com sells them also just a little higher than the Yamaha but 2 days and no response from my email to them has me gun shy.