Colusa County Man Convicted/Fined for Baiting Waterfowl

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  1. duckrig

    duckrig Elite Refuge Member

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    Extra rice left in the field is a normal agriculture practice. That is the key to not meet the definition of baiting.
     
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  2. Nocalhonker

    Nocalhonker Elite Refuge Member

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    Correct but same things apply, there was a field 2 seasons ago that had a portion unharvested because off the late harvest and early rains. It was flooded then stomped once they stomped the unharvested rice the field became unhuntable do to being a baited field. Stomping a rice field is normal, stomping an unharvested one is not.
     
  3. bojingles

    bojingles Elite Refuge Member

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    I’m sure their are plenty of farmers who happen to cut without harvesting rice around blinds. Probably more so when the price of rice is in the tank. I don’t think the issue is unique to corn. The only difference is most people hunting flooded corn around where are growing the corn as a food crop for the ducks, not humans, and so none of it is harvested. those get watched harder by dfg.
     
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  4. skinnyspoonie

    skinnyspoonie Elite Refuge Member

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    You cant manipulate the crop to make it accessible. If it falls over due to wind then it is a gift from Jesus. If your grandkids run it down on quads, to the pokey you go
     
  5. Big Daddy Gaddy

    Big Daddy Gaddy Elite Refuge Member

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    That may be true for the sink, but delta corn is far more widespread and heavily hunted and I can tell you that silage brings in way more dollars than hunting. Farmers don’t care about leaving corn for ducks or when it gets flooded for hunters.
    That’s just extra money for them but definitely secondary to the crop. Corn doesn’t flood until harvested and harvest doesn’t happen until the moisture content is right.
     
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  6. pumpgunner

    pumpgunner Elite Refuge Member

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    Play around on google earth. You'll see squares or rectangles in the middle of sink natural marsh ponds. Those are corn food plots. DU TV showed an episode of them shooting woodducks at bondersons.

    You want to see the right way to plant corn for ducks in ponds that are being hunted, watch the habitat flats videos. They plant wild millet next to corn for variety.... or to have kill holes so the birds they drop fall in open holes so they don't have to knock down corn so they're protected from not manipulating the crop
     
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  7. mark seaters

    mark seaters Elite Refuge Member

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    Your dead on Mike...but when it is flooded...

    I like birds that come from the northern rice to the delta corn..

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    Or better yet just good old delta corn birds
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  8. mouthcallinmatt

    mouthcallinmatt Elite Refuge Member

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    What about a dry unharvested standing wheat field? Without purposefully stomping it but obviously some gets stomped when putting out decoys, how is that looked at?
    Then consider the same spot a few weeks later after others have hunted it & more of it gets stepped on in the process of putting out & picking up decoys.
     
  9. J.Bennett

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    https://www.fws.gov/le/waterfowl-hunting-and-baiting.html

    You can hunt waterfowl on or over or from:

    • Standing crops or flooded standing crops, including aquatic plants.
    • Standing, flooded, or manipulated natural vegetation.
    • Flooded harvested croplands.
    • Lands or areas where grains have been scattered solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting, harvesting, or post-harvest manipulation.
    • Lands or areas where top-sown seeds have been scattered solely as the result of a normal agricultural planting, or a planting for agricultural soil erosion control or post-mining land reclamation.
    • A blind or other place of concealment camouflaged with natural vegetation.
    • A blind or other place of concealment camouflaged with vegetation from agricultural crops, provided your use of such vegetation does not expose, deposit, distribute or scatter grain or other feed.
    • Standing or flooded standing crops where grain is inadvertently scattered solely as the result of hunters entering or leaving the area, placing decoys, or retrieving downed birds. Hunters are cautioned that while conducting these activities, any intentional scattering of grain will create a baited area.


    Most of the questions and confusion that folks experience regarding baiting regulations would be cleared up if folks took the time to actually look at the regs rather than asking their buddies. If you do have rely on someone else to clarify something regarding baiting, and they mention the phrase “normal agricultural practice,” find someone else to ask because the person that you are talking to doesn’t know what they are talking about. There are lots of things that are baiting that would be considered “normal agricultural practices.” If there is feed present in a field it must be there due to either a normal agricultural planting, a normal agricultural harvest, a post-harvest manipulation (that was preceded by a normal agricultural harvest), or a normal soil stabilization practice. If the feed is present due to any other reason, normal agricultural practice or not, it is most likely baited per the law.
     
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  10. ducslayer

    ducslayer Elite Refuge Member

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    That rice marbling makes them tender and Delicious.
     
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