At some point I accepted this as gospel, that a gun stock should be almost to the crook of your elbow allowing your index finger to bend over the trigger. Last season, I got to the point where I didn't know where I was shooting with my lengthened stock guns and I spent many a miserable day afield wondering why I couldn't hit anything. I read that when checking for gun fit, the end of your nose, should be 5 3/4" from a vertical line that extends up from the center of the trigger. So with no alterations, the brand new 870 super mag fits my 6'4" frame perfectly and the bead looks to be floating when I look down the barrel not (seeing the rib). Am I doing this right?