I almost agree. I have a lot of good luck before thanksgiving. I usually don't see much around after the second week of January. My ideal season is Nov 15 to jan 15. I'm for making what mdc calls mo river west it's own zone, the lines were on the map at the Carrollton meeting. In all honesty this season was the worst i have seen it since the early 2,000's we don't want to jump the gun after one bad season. I haven't heard anyone say they had a good season.